By Jim McCarthy May 5, 2010 7 comments

How Not To Discount, Part 1

As you know, I run Goldstar, the world’s greatest online half-price ticket seller, and we believe strongly that when done well, discounting (not just through Goldstar) is highly beneficial for venues.  Last week’s post touched on this, and I got to thinking about why it might be important to go into more detail on this topic.

So I’m going to talk about several ways you should NOT discount and talk about why.  I may then conclude the series with how to discount, or I may just leave you to figure it out.  Depends on how it goes.

But here’s the first way you shouldn’t discount, and it’s a doozy.

When you make your full-price buyers the primary target of your discount promotions, you’re making a big mistake.  I’m not saying you should never put a discount out to your house list, but it should fairly low in your depth chart.

Why is this?  Because these are your most likely full-price buyers.  These are the people who are most likely to put a HIGH value on what you do, even if they haven’t bought yet.  Do this thought experiment with me:  imagine you sent an email to your top 1% of customers offering them great seats at a steep discount.  How would that email perform?  Pretty well, I’m guessing, but if, in a parallel universe, you didn’t send that email, the question is what the average revenue earned for those customers would be in each world?  Would you be doing better?

Perhaps, but probably not, and the point is that discounting should not be a strategy just for converting a few quick bucks, but for other, more strategic purposes.

It ticks me off a little to hear show marketers talking about wanting to avoid appearing to be giving discounts into the marketplace, but at the same time, they’re spamming their own best customers with offers.

Simple question:  who do you think is more likely to draw conclusions you don’t want them to draw about the desirability of your show:  a very engaged patron who gets an email from YOU with a discount or a mainstream entertainment consumer who’s never heard of you or never really thought of going to your venue who gets an offer from Goldstar or Travelzoo?

There’s a principle I want you to think about and that is that the best customers should want to GIVE YOU MORE and GET MORE FROM YOU.  Price should be the very last lever you pull with them, because either you’re getting and giving less or you’re giving them a gift.  Gifts are nice and can be a good tactic for building good will, but a better long term strategy is to deepen the relationship by giving more to and getting more from your truly engaged people.  Don’t give them the same thing for less.  Give them something special that only they can have for more.

There’s a major concert promoter that I won’t name who actually told me that their discounting strategy involves putting a show on sale, waiting to see how sales go, and if sales aren’t good, they send out a 25% discount to all the buyers in the region of the show.  If sales continue to struggle, they send out a 50% discount to all the buyers in the region.

Can you imagine?  They promote a show to the very same people with a very predictable 100%, 75%, 50% progression and are surprised when a.  people catch on and b. people begin to feel that the REAL price of the show is not the first one they see.

If you discount, it’s best to use channels as a first resort because, if a channel is good and doesn’t just resemble your own channel, you’ll be reaching a new audience with different characteristics.  You’re getting the value of promotion in that channel and the yield management benefits of a lower price.

Use your own channel too often and you’re not doing a price promotion with a discount; you’re just doing really bad dynamic pricing.

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7 Comments

  • John

    The folks at Fox Television and Live Nation must not read you blog, Jim. Tonight, in front of an audience of 20 million viewers, Ryan Seacrest announced, not once but twice, “Go to livenation.com for discounted tickets to see Idol Live this summer!”

    It was like him telling everyone watching, “Yep, our sales are in trouble!” It implied that price is the only reason viewers are holding out. And it set the stage for future on-sales. When you set an expectation among your primary audience that you’re in the habit of discounting to them at some point during the selling cycle, why would they ever pay full price again?

  • Armando Fox

    hey jim -i remember talking to you about this stuff a year or two ago at one of the excellent ‘reception/roundtables’ Goldstar had with some of its venue partners. these are great posts and i hope venue operators take them to heart and are able to use channels like Goldstar as a healthy addition to their revenue rather than a debilitating addiction that cannibalizes their other channels! kudos for the candid advice in these posts!

  • Jim McCarthy

    I remember that conversation. Nice to hear from you again, Armando.

  • Aaron

    I’ve had some disagreement on this one with colleagues. These colleagues would like to reward the earliest ticket buyers (presumably good or best customers) with the lowest price. To give a reward for loyalty. They disagree with me when I say that is leaving cash on the table. Of course, giving your earliest customers the lowest price is not exactly discounting. It’s more like a subscription price, I suppose.

    And despite our disagreement, neither of us would be sending a Goldstar link out to our core customers.

  • Jim McCarthy

    Aaron, I think low price based on buying early is viable to core customers, but low price to core customers based on discounting the price others pay is basically not a discount, but a price reduction. There’s an important distinction there.

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